Hi everybody this is Joe Lample the Joe behind Joe Gardner and welcome to the

Joe Gardner show. Last night is I reviewed the edits for this podcast

episode with my guest Oliver Millman a British journalist and the environment correspondent at the Guardian and he's also the author of the insect crisis the fall of tiny

empires that run the world the book is a devastating examination of how collapsing insect populations worldwide threaten everything

from wild birds to the food on her plate.

And that is what we're talking about today.

But I think it was because in re-listening to my conversation with

Oliver about this book and the many times I read through it that I felt like I

was not getting the news I was hoping to hear, that it suddenly struck me that many of you

who listen to this show on a regular basis do so because this is supposed to be a podcast all about

gardening. And over our show's seven-year evolution, not every all about how to be a better,

about how to be a better, smart or more confident gardener,

as you often hear me say, that is my goal with every episode, but I feel that it's equally important to help

you be an informed gardener too so I thought it might be a good time just to take a minute or

so to make sure that you know in case you've ever

wondered why in addition to straight gardening topics you also hear episodes

like this one about the insect crisis or last week on Aldo Leopold

considered to be our greatest conservationist of the 20th century on a gardening

podcast. Here's why. Even though some of our episodes don't fit into this strictly gardening box,

they are all connected to gardening in unique and relevant ways.

Everything is connected. You can't detach the impact of pesticide use, habitat loss, or poor management of our natural resources.

I realize we need the escape from the realities of all those things by getting lost in our own little slice of Garden Paradise

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