I have found more joy and confidence as I have learned to receive guidance from God and act on it

over and over and over again in little ways and big ways in every domain of my life.

And I think that's where the joy comes in that I was missing for a long time.

But now that we're a family podcast.

All right, Jessica Jackson, I tell you what, thank you for taking the time to sit and talk with us today.

I am not one, believe it or not, I am not one to find too much enjoyment from women blogs or from mother blogs or websites.

And I found myself thoroughly enjoying your website, thriving in motherhood, and even the little bit of content that I've been able to consume of yours because you really are a systems and a processes, in my mind, process person.

And I guess being an entrepreneur, being somebody that really wants to optimize

different aspects of my life, I felt like you were speaking a language that is really unique

in the motherhood space. And it really resonated with me. And I know Katie's spoken very highly of you.

So I'm really excited to be able to share a lot of your insights with our audience

and just to kind of like direct them more and more to your resources. But with all that said,

thanks for being here. Can you, in your own words, do maybe a quick introduction? Let us know

who you are, where you live. Do you have kids? Are you married? What is it that you're doing

right now? Yeah, absolutely. So I am a mom of four

kids. Fifth is going to be here in July. My husband and I have been married for almost 14 years,

and I homeschool all of our kids. And then the Thriving Motherhood podcast started is like a way

to use sound recording skills that I did in college. It's just something

fun for me like seven years ago. And I also started because I was not thriving in motherhood.

I was severely like surviving and you wouldn't know it. Like I've always something that's like

very determined and trying to figure things out. And so I figured if I started a podcast, I could interview moms that seem to be joyful, seem to have it figured out, seem to know what they were doing, and start to try and, I don't know, glean what I was missing, why I wasn't feeling the joy. And so that has grown into a business. I had zero

intention of it being anything like that. But that's kind of what we do. We spend a lot of time

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