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The Symbolic World

376 - Fr. Stephen De Young - St. Paul the Pharisee

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 824 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Fr. Stephen De Young is back on the podcast to discuss his latest book, St. Paul the Pharisee. St. Paul is at the core of many modern misunderstandings about Christianity; Fr. Stephen presents how we can understand St. Paul’s writings within the context of who he was, when he lived, and who he was addressing in his epistles, ultimately bringing us closer to the vision Christ Himself gave us.

-Buy Fr. Stephen’s book on the Ancient Faith Store - Saint Paul the Pharisee: Jewish Apostle to All Nations: https://store.ancientfaith.com/saint-paul-the-pharisee-jewish-apostle-to-all-nations/ 
-On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Saint-Paul-Pharisee-Apostle-Nations/dp/1955890706

==========Book description==========
The centuries after the Protestant Reformation brought about a radical reinterpretation of the epistles of St. Paul, disconnected from any historical reality. But Paul operated, during his entire life, as a faithful Pharisee within the Roman Jewish world. In Saint Paul the Pharisee: Jewish Apostle to All Nations, Fr. Stephen De Young surveys Paul’s life and writings, interpreting them within the Holy Tradition of the Orthodox Church. This survey is followed by De Young’s interpretive translation of St. Paul’s epistles, which deliberately avoids overly familiar terminology. By using words and ideas grounded in first-century Judaism, De Young hopes to unsettle commonly held notions and help the reader reassess St. Paul in his historical context.

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==========Other links==========
Lord of Spirits podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits/
Fr. Stephen’s talk at the Symbolic World Summit 2024, Friedrich Nietzsche’s Guide to the Bodily Resurrection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OVbxZJ463Q
Daily Wire The Gospels seminar: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels   

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==========Timestamps==========
00:00 - Coming up
01:13 - Intro music
01:38 - Introduction to St. Paul and Contextual Understanding
06:16 - Settling the "works vs faith" debate
13:06 - St. Paul and the Gospels: A Unified Message
15:37 - Scholasticism vs Mysticism
20:17 - The Transformation of Society through St. Paul's Vision
24:19 - Slavery and Christian Ethics in St. Paul's Writings
32:34 - The Kingdom of Heaven is already here
38:15 - Hierarchy bad
39:58 - The core of St. Paul's teachings: Faithfulness
41:34 - The Call to Individual Purpose
46:32 - The Nature of Christian Hierarchy
51:32 - St. Paul: Context and Misunderstandings
56:03 - Keeping Jewish practices
01:04:56 - The Sabbath
01:05:50 - Tradition preserves context
01:11:08 - Understanding St. Paul: A Personal Connection

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everything secure. We just did like in this seminar on the Gospels where we spent a whole week

0:59.6

four hours a day talking about the gospel and saying we're just going to go into the Gospels

1:03.6

and then say what we see what we see there. At some point someone commented, I think it was even

1:08.3

Dennis Prager. He's like, why is it where like three, three quarters of the way through this and no one has said the things that I usually

1:15.1

hear from Christians, from a certain branch of Christians, I'm like, well, because it's not

1:18.8

there. It's not in the gospel. It's like, it's, I mean, yes, you can maybe get it through St. Paul,

1:23.5

but it's not there in the gospels, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've gotten some feedback, and there have been some reviews posted the book where people

1:29.5

are saying, like, this reading of St. Paul fits with Jesus a lot better, right?

1:36.5

There's not this sort of split anymore.

1:39.3

The fact that reading him in context, all of a sudden, he sounds a lot more like he's

1:43.8

saying the same things

1:44.7

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And Jesus says nothing. Yeah, God's already, God's already chosen. If he hasn't, then, you know,

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