Welcome back to the podcast. Today we have two amazing guests. We have the return of my brother, Dr. Nathan Riley, the holistic OBGYN. He's been on this show a handful of times, always teaching incredible stuff. He's checked trained, licensed MD. He has helped deliver a baby as well as help someone cross over to the next plane of existence, all in the same 24-hour cycle,

similar to Zach Bush, and just an incredible, incredible human, one of my dear brothers and somebody

I've learned a ton from, somebody I continue to learn a ton from. And anytime Nathan tells me

about a book, I get that book in one day. I'll buy the book. I'll start it by the end of the

week. He's never served me wrong in saying, listen to this podcast, buy this book.

And he's never served me wrong or led me wrong in introducing me to someone.

And he introduced me to his friend, Marin Azov, who was a professional singer and got into plant

medicines and actually unlocked quite a bit when it comes to the voice,

chanting the vocal cords and how that relates to the human body.

We discuss cymatics and frequency and how that correlates with different chakras.

And we don't, you know, what I love about Nathan is that he's down for the woo-woo,

but he always brings it back to science-based and the understanding

of how we actually work. So polyvagal theory is discussed in this and our understanding that through

tuning and chanting, we can actually harmonize and bring our nervous system into coherence. And from

that, we can operate from our center. You know, a lot of people meditate, and it's very hard to meditate.

You know, if you have no experience with that, you can't sit still.

Well, that's because your nervous system's out of whack.

So if we can address that first, meditation is possible.

Yoga, the practice of yoga, was done specifically

so that you could lay there in shavasana and have a quiet mind. And what's really cool is that chanting

is a at least 6,000-year-old practice. It's written about in the Rig Veda and many other places.

And it's really cool, but I've never really had the guidance from experts until now.

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