384 - Gregg Hurwitz - Why We Tell Stories (Ralston College)
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
4.8 • 824 Ratings
🗓️ 15 March 2025
⏱️ 101 minutes
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Summary
RALSTON COLLEGE: A revival and reinvention of the traditional university. A fellowship for anyone, anywhere who seeks the truth with courage.
While the review of applications for the 2025-26 year of their fully-funded Master's in the Humanities program has already begun, a small number of spaces remain for extraordinary candidates. Apply now: https://www.ralston.ac/humanities-ma
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:41 - Intro music
01:06 - Introduction
06:40 - What they like about each other
13:03 - Dramatizing Genesis
17:01 - On writing and being an artist
22:41 - Ralston College students
25:37 - Advice to artists
28:09 - Why are you compelled to tell stories?
33:09 - Form and function
42:32 - Looking back on your 20s, what did you do well, and what did you learn from?
49:19 - What's been your experience being public figures?
59:03 - Do you ever wish you hadn't entered the public eye?
01:04:39 - How to keep the fire going without desperation?
01:09:30 - How to navigate the political?
01:19:22 - How to choose your priorities and commitments?
01:23:11 - How to go from an idea to a larger project?
01:26:36 - Should an artist cater to an audience?
01:34:43 - What does Ralston mean to you?
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The secret is, you know, we have rhetoric, we have politics, we have economy, mathematics, |
| 0:06.0 | we have all these ways of knowing and of seeing and we have science, but art is actually underneath |
| 0:11.2 | it all. |
| 0:12.3 | There's the making of space, that is architecture. |
| 0:15.4 | There's the making of the story and the making of the image. |
| 0:18.2 | And those three, they are the secret binding for everything else. |
| 0:23.6 | Everything else exists within that world. |
| 0:25.6 | And it's almost like an esoteric secret. |
| 0:27.8 | That is that if you can control the story, not control. |
| 0:30.9 | If you can tell the story, then you're actually changing the way people see and think |
| 0:37.1 | about the world |
| 0:38.3 | before they have any opinion. |
| 0:40.3 | This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. |
| 0:57.0 | About a month and a half ago I went to to Ralston College where we had a wonderful roundtable |
| 1:12.3 | discussion about meaning, about art, about the future of culture. |
| 1:17.1 | And in that time, I had an amazing discussion with Greg Hurwitz. |
| 1:21.1 | As you know, Greg Hurwitz is a best-selling author, but he's also become a friend of mine, |
| 1:27.1 | and we've started to collaborate on some interesting projects. |
| 1:30.3 | So in this discussion, we talk about what it means to be an artist in our different spheres, what it means to work together, |
| 1:36.3 | and also giving advice to young people who are trying to figure out what they want to do now. |
| 1:42.3 | And, you know, I also wanted to tell people that |
| 1:44.8 | Ralston College is such an amazing place. If you are young and you are kind of trying to figure out |
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