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🗓️ 6 March 2025
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Do you constantly feel like you need to control everything in your life? Like if you could just be more organized, more productive, more perfect, then you’d finally feel at peace? What if the real secret to feeling more fulfilled was actually letting go of that control?
This week, I’m joined by Oliver Burkeman, author of 4,000 Weeks, to talk about why embracing our limits—not fighting them—is the key to a more meaningful life. Oliver and I dive into our culture’s obsession with productivity and perfection, why it actually makes us more anxious, and how to stop chasing an impossible standard and start spending your precious time in a way that actually matters. If you’re ready to stop feeling like life is a never-ending to-do list, this episode is for you.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to UnFuck Your Brain. |
0:08.2 | I'm your host, Cara Lowenthal, master-certified coach and founder of the School of New |
0:13.3 | Feminist Thought. |
0:14.5 | I'm here to help you turn down your anxiety, turn up your confidence, and create a life |
0:20.0 | on your own terms, one that you're |
0:22.0 | truly excited to live. Let's go. |
0:27.4 | Hello, my friends. So we're journeying back in time in some ways today to the very beginning |
0:32.6 | of my journey in self-development because we are going to be speaking with Oliver Berkman, |
0:38.3 | who is the author of one of the first books that actually made me think that a smart, |
0:43.8 | rational person could also do some version of self-development, self-help, philosophical work. |
0:49.4 | And so it was very meaningful for me. |
0:51.4 | And so I'm very excited and honored to have him on the show. |
0:54.1 | And I'm going |
0:55.2 | actually just ask him to introduce himself and tell us a little bit about who he is and what he does |
0:59.1 | before we get going. Welcome. Thank you so much. Yeah, my name's Oliver Berkman. I'm an author, |
1:04.3 | trained as a journalist. I wrote this book 4,000 weeks and the more recent book, Meditations for Mortals and some other books, |
1:11.5 | but I won't go on and on and on. I live in North of England in the UK now after many, |
1:16.3 | many years living in Brooklyn, New York. All right, a former Brooklynite, but you got out. |
1:22.0 | So I actually want to back up a little bit in your career too, and of course we'll get your newer work, |
1:26.8 | but your book, The Antidote, was kind of one of the first self-development books I read. Or I don't even |
1:32.7 | love that term. I really think of it as practical philosophy, what I do and a lot of, not to speak |
1:37.3 | for you, but a lot of what you do as well. But it was one of the first, you know, I came from a very, you know, a family of New York Jews. |
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