Welcome to the Making Sense podcast. This is Sam Harris. Okay, well, it was the final stretch

before the 2024 presidential election. I might have a few more thoughts to express on this topic

over on Substack in the coming days,

but this will be the last podcast I drop before the vote on Tuesday.

Earlier this week, I did a debate with Ben Shapiro for Barry Weiss's Honestly podcast.

You can find that on YouTube and over it Honestly. And today I'm speaking with

Mark Cuban. Mark is a very well-known entrepreneur and investor. He's also known for his role on

the television series Shark Tank and his ownership of the Dallas Mavericks. And as you'll hear, he's been an outspoken supporter of the Harris campaign.

And today we give something like a closing argument in favor of Harris.

Of course, much of this amounts to expressing our concerns about Trump and a second Trump term.

We talk about Trump's ethics, his bewildering indestructibility

as a candidate, election denialism, the influence of Elon Musk, the strengths and weaknesses of the

Harris campaign, the mystery of the southern border, Trump's immigration and deportation policy, Elon's

delusional endorsement of the Great Replacement Theory, Trump's economic policy, Harris's

tax and health care proposals, the effect of tariffs, the U.S. supply chain, the problem of wealth

inequality, the notion of taxing

unrealized capital gains, support for Israel, a much-needed return to normal politics,

and other topics. No paywall for this one, and now I bring you, Mark Cuban. I am here with Mark Cuban. Mark, thanks for

joining me. Thanks for having me on, Sam. So I think this could be a short conversation. We're

now speaking six days before the election, and I know you have been making

the rounds on various channels in support of the Harris campaign. Are you a formal surrogate

of the campaign at this point? I mean, I don't have any formal relationship with them, but, you know,

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