Hello, hello there, good listener.

Welcome to the Pure Desire podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to finding healing from betrayal and breaking free from compulsive sexual behaviors.

I'm your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to episode

390 of the Pure Desire podcast. Today is a special episode. If you are listening to it on

or near the day it comes out, Merry Christmas to you, from all of us at the Pure Desire

family, to you and to yours. I hope this is a wonderful celebration and that you really are

able to personally experience the hope and the wonder and joy of Christ who came to be with us

and share the Father's love into our world and into our hearts. And if you're listening to

this at a time other than Christmas, the topic today I think is so valuable for all of us because in recovery,

we're going to hit times where we go on vacation.

We go on a trip.

We're with our family or our spouse's family.

And many of those routines that we rely on for health, sobriety, for our recovery strategies

can get changed.

Some things go out the window because everything's

different on a trip or around a holiday. And so today we had a conversation together. It's why I don't

have a co-host because I feel like I had two co-hosts with Robert and Rebecca Van Damir.

Robert and Rebecca have been a part of the Pure Desire clinical team for almost a decade.

And prior to that, they traveled around Latin America, helping couples and individuals in the area of sexual addiction and teaching people about the principles of pure desire.

And so they have been helping couples and individuals in this area for a long, long time.

And I had a conversation with them today on how do we navigate the

stress that comes into relationships, particularly during holidays. And so beyond the Hallmark

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