Hello, hello there, good listener. I am your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to the

Pure Desire podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from

betrayal and breaking free from compulsive sexual behavior. Today is episode 392 on the podcast.

And joining me today is our associate director of marketing and communications.

My co-host is Heather Kolb. Heather. Heather, can't say your name today for some reason.

Heather, welcome back to the podcast. Happy to be here. I think when this podcast

comes out, we're going to be at the beginning of the new year or somewhere in January. You got any

big plans for 2025? Be less busy. That's my plan. Wow. How do you how do you do that?

I have no idea. I need advice. The challenge is we're recording this several months before

2025, so you do have a couple of months to think about how to be less busy. Yes, definitely.

Now, so you can be less busy so you have more time with grandkids? Because I know you've got

a new one of those, right? Yep, two grandkids. Yes, they take up a lot of time, but it's so worth it.

I bet. I find myself in an interesting place where I'm now as a dad, you know, I'm clearly,

I mean, you never know what's going to happen in life, but I'm clearly closer to grandchildren

than to having little kids of my own. And that shift, I'm feeling it more now. I have a daughter in college and

she's seriously dating. I'm not, you know, no pressure. Please, honey, don't feel like, we're in no hurry

for you to have a baby or get married even. Do it in your own time. But just you see that and you're like,

oh my goodness, like that could happen. You know, marriage, kids, family, like could be close for them. And it does, it kind of impacts how you see your world a little bit, which leads into our

conversation today.

This month, we're going to be focusing in on parents and teens and kids and this whole

environment of healthy sexuality, raising kids that have a biblical worldview and a healthy

way of approaching their sexuality. And that's not easy. It's not easy for us as parents,

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