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Joining us now is Dave Smith. He's hot off of a major debate, Royal the Internet, host of the part

of the problem podcast, and more importantly, a good friend. It's good to see you, Dave. Thanks for

joining us, man. Good to see you too, man. Thank you. Thank you both for having me back on.

Absolutely. I mean, Dave, look, we're preaching to each other, but it's still satisfying,

and we need to sit here and revel a little bit in some of the

fallout from your Douglas Murray debate. I mean, I think there were many parts of it, the

quote-unquote expert concern trolling from Douglas, there was the general pomposity. But, I mean,

what really struck a nerve and what the pro-Israel folks really hung on to in how you allegedly were

destroyed was you've never been to Israel, a very lived experience argument. And so Will wanted

you to respond to a clip that I know you've surfaced and have seen of Douglas Murray talking about

lived experience to you, but then previously shouting down the idea of lived experience

is legitimate. Let's take a listen. We're going to get your reaction.

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