When you go to Joe it kind of desensitizes all of that because you start to become understanding to

like he's a murderer but I still have to live with him so it's normal it's normal to

be with a murderer but a snitch is like you're a danger to me yeah so I need to I need to I need to trouble you

Hello welcome episode four yeah for flying by.

Time does fly doesn't it.

Unless you're locked up inside.

So last time we were talking about the sort of tabloid aspects of prison, the kind of violence, drugs, this idea of losing your privileges being put on basic.

So other end of... Yeah, I mean last week was basically the

audio book version of a copy of the sun yeah talking about all the naughty bits

now so there is another side of it. Not everyone is as lucky as you

to have experience other side of it of which you both make it look quite easy. But you were too well-behaved lads in prison in general.

Technically everyone in there was a naughty boy but we were not so naughty boys.

We were, we behaved ourselves inside. Once inside. And you gained what they call enhanced status.

Mike tell us, just recap, like what's this idea of like an IEP status, what is enhanced?

So enhanced, it's basically the opposite of basic where you it's a privilege you get you get you're allowed more money on your

canteen spends which you can buy more food more credit

long credit calls for it was a long phone calls obviously more credit

long phone calls.

Obviously family ties, building family ties and that.

More gym, which is a big thing for most people.

Everyone wanted to be in the gym.

So when you're getting enhanced only sessions, you want to be in the gym. So when you're getting enhanced only sessions you want to be you

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