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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#409 — "More From Sam": Religion, Deportations, Douglas Murray vs. Rogan, & Bill Maher's Dinner with Trump

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

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4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Sam hopped back on with his manager and business partner, Jaron Lowenstein, to discuss current events and answer some of the questions you all submitted on Substack. By far the most common feedback we hear from you guys is the following: “We want more from Sam.” So that's what we're trying to bring you with this new series, “More From Sam.” Sam and Jaron discuss community in the absence of religion, whether you should lie to your children about the existence of Santa Claus, Bill Ackman's response to Trump's tariff reversal, Douglas Murray's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, Bill Maher's visit to the White House, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this, you're not currently on our subscriber feed, and we'll only be hearing the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense podcast, you'll need to subscribe

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to anyone who can't afford one. We don't run ads on the podcast, and therefore it's made

0:31.4

possible entirely through the support of our subscribers. So if you enjoy what we're doing here,

0:36.1

please consider becoming one. Welcome to the Making Sense podcast.

0:46.3

This is Sam Harris.

0:49.3

Today I'm answering some more questions that were submitted by subscribers on my Substack page

0:54.2

and discussing some current events. Once again, the voice you're hearing on the other end is

0:59.8

that of my manager and business partner, Jaron Lonestein. We're hoping to continue this series of

1:05.1

episodes. So if you're a subscriber to the podcast, you can submit topics over on Substack. And if you're not a subscriber,

1:13.4

you can become one at samharris.org slash subscribe.

1:24.9

Okay, Sam, we have a lot to get into today. And obviously, I want to get your thoughts on

1:28.9

Douglas Murray, our buddy, who appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast last week. It feels like it was a month ago.

1:35.0

I want to also ask you about the financial luminaries who have praised the handling of Trump's

1:39.6

terrorists. We get into that as well. The art of the deal, Bill Ackman, the art of the deal.

1:44.4

The art of the deal.

1:46.8

We will also discuss our friend Bill Mars.

1:50.3

We're going to get into all that, Sam.

1:51.7

I could just tell you you're ready to go.

1:53.6

We're going to discuss our friend Bill Maher's review of his White House dinner with Trump,

1:57.6

hold, hold, and discuss deportations and more. But before we get into that,

2:02.0

I want to get your reactions on some of the questions we got over at your substack page. These

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