Okay, welcome everyone to a new episode of the Jeff Nippard podcast. It's been a while since I've done one of these.

So in this episode, I'm speaking with Dr. Mike Isretel. Now, if you guys have been keeping up with my YouTube channel at all,

you know that I've recently uploaded a video where I speak to five different guests about the topic of how hard we should be training in the gym.

And originally I had just planned to straight up ask them that question, get their answer,

and then kind of compile them for the video.

But I found that the answers that I got were so nuanced and interesting that I just

couldn't help but ask some follow-up questions.

And what was originally meant to be got a five-minute phone call in each case,

ended up taking about 30 to 60

minutes. And there was just so much good information that wasn't at all redundant across all of

these conversations that I thought, I think it would really be doing a disservice to my audience

to only upload the snippets that I put on YouTube.

And so what I decided was it'd probably be best if I uploaded the full length on edited conversations here on my podcast.

So this is going to be the first of five discussions that I'll have with five different guests about how hard we should train in the gym.

But as you'll see, our conversations aren't really

limited to that topic. We do get a little bit off track in the sense that we also talk about

training volume. We talk about the sort of volume versus intensity debate, what it really means to

train hard. Like should we look at that on a per set basis? Like how close should we take each set

in terms of proximity to failure? Or should we take each set in terms of proximity to failure?

Or should we look at this in terms of like how hard is a training session in general and how

hard should training sessions be? What does it mean to go too hard in the gym and how does all

of that interact with recovery? As you'll see, I think the conversations were really interesting,

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