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412-Animal Intelligence: Appreciating the Emotional Depth of Wildlife

The joe gardener Show - Organic Gardening - Vegetable Gardening - Expert Garden Advice From Joe Lamp'l

Joe Lamp'l

Hobbies, Home & Garden, Leisure

4.61.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The animals we share the planet with — wildlife, livestock and pets alike — have more depth and personality than they are often given credit for. Joining me this week to speak about what he’s learned about animal intelligence is Brandon Keim, the author of “Meet the Neighbors: Animal Minds and Life in a More-than-Human World.”

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. This is Joe Lampel, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner Show.

0:05.4

Today's guest invites us to see the world not just as a place that we live in, but as a vibrant community we share.

0:12.5

Brandon Kime is a science and nature journalist whose work has appeared in the Atlantic, National Geographic, and Wired.

0:19.6

His latest book, Meet the Neighbors, Animal Minds, and

0:22.8

Life in a More Than Human World is a deeply thoughtful exploration of the lives, consciousness,

0:28.8

and agency of the animals around us. In Meet the Neighbors, Brandon challenges us to go beyond

0:34.2

simply observing wildlife to recognize animals as neighbors, fellow beings,

0:39.3

with rich inner lives and their own ways of seeing and shaping the world.

0:43.5

This idea should resonate powerfully with gardeners and nature lovers alike,

0:47.7

because after all, a garden isn't just a human endeavor, it's a shared habitat,

0:52.8

a patch of earth alive with birds, insects, mammals,

0:55.8

and more. And whether you're planting for pollinators, coaxing native plants to thrive,

1:01.1

or simply watching the daily rhythms unfold in your backyard, you're participating in a complex

1:06.7

web of relationships that reaches far beyond that connection we have with just what's growing in our

1:12.0

garden. Brandon's work offers a lens that should deepen our appreciation for the creatures that

1:16.7

live among and sometimes depend on our cultivated places. And it also invites us to ask what kind

1:23.2

of neighbors do we want to be. So let's get started with this conversation and one that I hope

1:28.7

will expand your sense of wonder and leave you looking at your garden and your fellow animals

1:33.1

in a whole new light. And as we begin, thanks to our sponsors for today's episode, Soil Cubed and

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