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Light out everybody.

What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Lights Out Podcast. I'm your

host Josh. As always, I've got my brother and producer right here next to me. And today

we are going to be diving into an absolutely bone-chilling case of a woman named Estefania

Gutierrez. I want to go ahead and just say right now that during this episode at some

point, I probably will fuck up the pronunciation of her name and some of the other names and

places in this episode because we're talking about a case coming out of Madrid, Spain.

So obviously Spanish is my native language. It's not a joke to pronounce. So we know very

little Spanish. So we will probably struggle some of this. But nevertheless, this is an

absolutely crazy case. And the reason why it's so crazy and why we're covering it is because

this poor woman died mysteriously after using a Ouija board. Ouija boards are one of those

things that I'm very fascinated by because I've heard something about it. I'm just like

able to communicate with the unseen with one. Through a board. Like what is it about this

board that makes it the key to unlocking the other side it seems? That's a good question.

But with it, people are like, be careful. Don't use a Ouija board unless you know what

you're doing because you never know who you're going to contact. If you do a say-ons

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