436 // The Mysterious Deaths of Kris Kremers & Lisanne Froon W/Prof. Perlmutter

Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries

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🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by friend of the show, Professor David Perlmutter from Texas Tech University, College of Media & Communication. Dr. Perlmutter brings to the conversation the haunting and tragic story of Kris Kremer and Lisanne Froon, two young women who disappeared while on a hike in Panama in 2014. Their remains were found along with dozen of photos that created an internet fascination. To learn more about Kris Kremer and Lisanne Froon, you can listen to the Lost in Panama podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lost-in-panama/id1650171879 https://open.spotify.com/show/552v0bU0KQrnNDoeinrYU9?si=2734dbdf82fa4471 Check out more on Professor David Perlmutter: https://www.davidperlmutter-research.com/ Check out our Subscription Service where we have a bundled our bonus material from Missing, Crawlspace and Dark Valley shows! Ad-free episodes and more at https://missing.supportingcast.fm/ Use promo code, "Missing" for your first month FREE! Follow us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/crawlspacepodcast/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast YT: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrawlspacePod FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58cll3enTW2SNmbJUuLsrt The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound Check out the entire Crawlspace Media Network at http://crawlspace-media.com/ Crawlspace Media is part of the Glassbox Media Network. Check them out here: https://glassboxmedia.com/ Follow Private Investigations For the Missing https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ http://piftm.org/donate https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/ https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is a Glass Box Media Podcast. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Welcome to Crawl space. I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?
0:38.3	I'm doing fantastic today Tim. We have the holidays in full swing right now,
0:43.0	so we're all preparing for that.
0:44.8	We have some family gatherings coming up,
0:47.0	and we have a member of the Crawl Space family
0:49.3	on this episode.
0:50.4	He's always bringing such interesting insight into these topics, but Tim how's your holiday season are you feeling jolly dish? What's going on?
0:59.0	I'm jolly I'm jolly I'm pretty jolly and yeah, we're recording this on December 20th and this will be one of our last episodes of the year and we are excited though to host a friend who we've met a little while ago. His name is Professor David Perlmutter and he is with Texas Tech
1:17.4	University. I think most of his appearances have been on missing, but this time we are speaking with him on crawl space obviously
1:25.8	about the disappearances and mysterious deaths of Chris Kremmers and Lissan Frune.
1:33.0	That's right.
1:33.5	And while we say that we are excited to bring this conversation,
1:36.2	I mean, we're certainly not excited to talk about the unfortunate,
1:39.2	untimely deaths of these two young women.
1:41.2	Chris Kremmers was 21,
1:43.0	Lissanne Frune was 22, and they were both from the Netherlands
1:46.8	and were embarking on a teaching trip in Panama in 2014, unfortunately, during a hike during their downtime, something happened during that six-hour
1:57.6	period which became now, I think the stuff of true crime legend there are multiple dozens of pictures
2:05.2	out there that people have really committed themselves to figuring out in terms of
2:09.6	what these pictures mean and that's what Dr. Perlmutter is bringing to the conversation here. He is a professor and an expert and he teaches in the subject of interpreting what we see in the media versus real life and how we are processing that.
2:24.0	Yeah, this is really right up Dr. Perlmutters Alley, this conversation and in fact he brought
2:28.7	the subject to us because I think he really enjoys sort of mixing it up with us and we with him as well.
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