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Timesuck with Dan Cummins

447 - Falun Gong: The Cult Behind The Epoch Times and Shen Yun

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Dan Cummins

True Crime, Society & Culture, Religion, Conspiracies, History, Biographies, Education, Adult Humor, Comedy, Dark Humor, Conspiracy, Cults

4.721.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 181 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever been to one of those Shen Yun traveling traditional Chinese dance performances? Have you ever seen one of their blitz marketing campaigns? What about the Epoch Times - is that where you or someone you know get their news? Did you know that both of these companies are directly connect to the Falun Gong, a strange cult that originated in China in 1992, and is now based in a massive compound less than a 100 miles north of New York City?

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0:00.0

wouldn't it be great if we could just ban a cult?

0:03.5

Some of you have been listening to me talk about cults for over eight years now.

0:07.0

So I'm willing to bet there's been at least one time, probably many, when you've heard

0:11.2

about the horrific abuse people have been put through with the hands of some charismatic dipshit,

0:16.1

some grifting leader, and thought, my God, just fucking throw this asshole in jail already. Maybe you've even

0:22.8

thought something along lines of fuck their due process, fuck their freedom of speech. If they are

0:28.2

hurting and abusing people and almost all these groups are in some way, typically to a large

0:32.9

degree emotionally, financially, sexually, physically, why not just get rid of them?

0:39.1

Why not make it illegal to be a member?

0:41.4

Put out a warrant for the arrest of the ringleader or ringleaders,

0:44.5

crush the cult and call it a day.

0:46.8

It's a really nice idea.

0:48.6

But as many nice ideas are, it's one that's much more complicated than it may first

0:53.0

appear.

0:53.9

For one thing, there's the

0:55.3

hairy issue of due process and freedom of religion and freedom of speech. If you're going to

1:00.2

allow people to worship, whatever they want to worship, inevitably, some people are going to start

1:05.1

believing a lot of shit the rest of us find bonkers, crazy in some cases to a degree that truly horrifies many of us.

1:12.8

And invariably, freedom of religion will lead to a lot of cults. Freedom of speech allows

1:18.8

these cults to promote some really stupid, harmful shit like QAnon conspiracy level of stupid.

1:25.4

And the right to do process sometimes does lead to someone running an

1:29.4

obvious grift to lawyer up avoid justice and keep on grifting freedom has its pitfalls setting all

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