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American Thought Leaders

45 Hongkongers, 250 Years: The Grim Realities of Hong Kong’s Political Trials–Mark Clifford

American Thought Leaders

Jan Jekielek

Government, News, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Forty-five key figures in Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement were recently sentenced to up to 10 years each. More than 1,900 political prisoners have been convicted and imprisoned in Hong Kong in the last five years. Thousands more are simply being held without bail for years on end. About 40 percent of Hong Kong’s entire prison population is being held without a conviction.

“They haven’t even taken the trouble to convict these people in a kangaroo court,” says Mark Clifford, president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong Foundation.

Clifford has lived in Asia since the late 1980s and witnessed Hong Kong’s transformation from a largely free society in 1997, to an increasingly repressive one. He previously served as editor-in-chief of the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post and executive director of the Hong Kong-based Asia Business Council.

He’s the author of multiple books, including “Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World” and most recently “The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong’s Greatest Dissident, and China’s Most Feared Critic.”

Hong Kong, once celebrated for its economic freedom and rule of law, has now become a key node for authoritarian regimes to evade sanctions, Clifford says. According to a report by Samuel Bickett, Hong Kong has become an indispensable location for the transfer of money, military technology, and prohibited products to Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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45 Hong Kong Democrats were sentenced to a total of almost 250 years in prison.

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For what? Because they held an election primary to try to get the strongest candidates for a city council.

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Most of them have been held in jail even before they were convicted, and now they've gotten sentences up to 10 years each.

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Mark Clifford has lived in Asia since the late 1980s and served as editor-in-chief of the

0:23.8

South China Morning Post, an executive director of the Hong Kong-based Asia Business Council.

0:29.3

He witnessed Hong Kong's transformation from a largely free society in 1997 to an increasingly

0:35.6

repressive one, especially after the 2019 imposition of its national

0:40.0

security law.

0:41.0

What we've seen is Hong Kong go from being a place that would welcome Western business

0:46.9

to one that's increasingly become a kind of rogue state that is home to smuggling of a lot

0:53.6

of high-tech equipment that's most notably, worryingly,

0:57.0

going into the Russian war effort in Ukraine.

0:59.5

Now he's president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong.

1:03.0

He's the author of multiple books, including most recently The Troublemaker, a biography of Apple

1:08.4

Daly's billionaire founder, Jimmy Lye. He said, I would rather be hanging dead from a lamp post in central Hong Kong

1:15.6

than to give the Chinese communists the satisfaction of saying that I ran away.

1:21.6

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kelly.

1:23.6

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