Hello and welcome to Focus, the Catholic Cancer's podcast for Living Understanding and Defending

Your Catholic Faith.

I'm Sy Kelly, your host, and one of the things we kind of have to understand, explain

and defend these days is the Christian person and the church as a whole in its involvement

in its where it's connected and where it's disconnected from politics.

And lots of accusations, we've hear newly minted words, at least they're newly minted

as far as I can tell, like crystal fascist being applied to those who even in some cases

just think that Christian values should be brought into the public square and shared

there or encouraged in voting and that kind of thing.

So in order to, well, we wanted to talk about that and in order to have a good conversation

about that, we thought we'd get a lawyer and a theologian and a very fine apologist.

Joe Hedgemeyer, Hedgemeyer.

Hi.

Thanks for coming.

Yeah.

Are you crystal fascist?

I'm not sure anyone is.

I mean, it's possible there are some people who are.

The problem is the term doesn't seem to mean anything exactly.

It seems it impressionistic, really, but there, there does seem to be, I mean, I would say

and I, I want to be careful about how I say this.

But certainly there is a kind of fear of fascism, but there's also an active exploitation

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