Joe Rogan So a few years back my friend Gordon Hester who's a guy that I met on the internet

said hey do you want to have dinner with Hicks and Gracie?

So I said, fuck yeah man.

If you are a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, there's, it's very rare in a sport. I guess there's a few sports like if you think bike racing you think you think Lance Armstrong unfortunately now, but that's the name.

But the universal name that gets thrown about in Jiu-Jitsu, there's the last name which is Gracie.

And then once you get to know Jiu-Jitsu and you understand Jiu-Jitsu and you get you start training.

Everybody always wants to know who's the best, who's the best, who's the best.

Who's the best?

Universally regarded as the all-time best is your father, your father Hicks and Gracie.

There's not much debate amongst Jiu-Jitsu people.

There's debate as to who's the best right now,

but I talked to Henzo about this one time and HENzo just shook his head and he goes

He's a motherfucker he goes he's a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker. He's just laughing. He's like he's the best he's the best and when a guy like henzo says something I just listen you know

so what is I that's when I met you

You were with your dad and we went and had some dinner and then we went back to your house and we watched some fights, which was amazing to have your dad break down what guys are doing wrong and what's wrong with their positioning, what's wrong with

you know their approach and and what his approach is. And for me as a student of

martial arts and as a student of martial arts and as a fan of martial arts it was a huge honor you

know and you were I think you like 16 or 17 back then

yeah something like that you were into rap music and all kinds of different shit and so from that, you know, I've run into a few times over the years when, when Hoise fought Matt Hughes and a couple other times

you've become yourself like one of the most prominent Jiu-Jitsu fighters in the world

today and that's so cool to see.

It's so cool to see a young kid with aspirations

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