#464 Was Vatican II Merely Pastoral? - Michael Lofton

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🗓️ 21 December 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Sometimes the Second Vatican Council gets a weak defense: “Well, it was just a pastoral council, so why worry about it?” Michael Lofton, from Reason and Theology, asks whether this defense is true? Is Vatican II really “just pastoral”? Cy Kellett: Hello, and welcome to Focus, the Catholic Answers Podcast for living understanding and defending your Catholic faith. I’m Cy Kellett, your host and this time we talk a bit about the Second Vatican Council, which yes, we are still talking about almost constantly, still debating about, still even fighting about 60 years a…

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0:00.0	Hello, and welcome to Focus the Catholic Answers Podcast for Living Understanding and Defending
0:11.0	Your Catholic Faith.
0:12.0	I'm Sy Kelly at Your Host, and this time we talk a bit about the Second Vatican Council,
0:16.4	which yes, we are still talking about, almost constantly, still debating about, still even
0:21.6	fighting about 60 years after the Council.
0:25.0	They always say it takes at least 50 years for a Council to be accepted.
0:28.0	Well, at another 50 or 150, I don't know how long it's going to take for this Council
0:32.4	to be integrated into the life of the church in a way that's healthy.
0:37.0	We're not there yet.
0:38.4	But one of the ways that people sort of defend the Council and attack the Council, they'll
0:44.4	use the same phrase to defend the Council and to attack the Council, and that is, it's
0:48.5	just a pastoral Council.
0:50.2	It's just a pastoral Council.
0:51.7	So is that true?
0:53.2	Was it just a pastoral Council in order to have a good solid conversation about that?
0:58.0	We brought in a good solid theologian and apologist Michael Lofton, is an apologist,
1:04.0	apologist here at Catholic Answers and the founder of Reason and Theology.
1:08.0	Michael, thanks for being with us.
1:10.0	Thanks for having me back on.
1:11.9	I was thinking about it this morning, and really 60 years on.
1:16.5	I was born during the Council, so I can always tell how old it is, so 60 years on.
1:21.8	Many Councils, you know, people still argue over, but they're arguing over what did the
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