Hello, and welcome to Focus. The Catholic Cancer's podcast for living, understanding, and defending

your Catholic faith. I'm Psy Kelly at your host, and it will be helping with the living part today,

because among the great plagues of the modern world, you know, the many things that make modern life

burdensome is racism. It's not necessarily a plague that has always plagued humanity. It seems

to be a particularly modern affliction, and one, we just can't seem to wean ourselves off to get

away from. Emerging now is something called critical race theory, which has, as it's stated,

gold, the ending of racism, but will it work? And is it really humane? Does it really

comport with a proper understanding of how human beings should treat one another? Our guests this

hour is the perfect guy to answer these questions, and more. It's got a brand new book out called

All One in Christ, a Catholic critique of racism, and critical race theory, Dr. Edward Fasers,

professor of philosophy at Pasadena City College in Pasadena, California. He's published

extensively, both in academic journals and in the popular press. In fact, the National Review

called him one of the best contemporary writers on philosophy, Dr. Faser. Thank you for being here

with us. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. So among the things that you start with in the book

is an idea that I have to admit I had not thought about, and that is that you could make scientific

arguments against racism, saying, for example, like comparing IQs and saying we're all generally

in the same field or doing whatever scientific comparison, genetic comparisons, for example,

and all that. But that actually wouldn't be an adequate basis for making a strong opposition to

racism. Is part of what you're doing here trying to give us a strong foundation on which to rest

are opposition to racism? Absolutely. And as I emphasize in the book, the church's own condemnation

of racism has always appealed to much deeper considerations than biological science could either

confirm or deny. Specifically, the church takes the condemnation of racism to rest both in human

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