We've pushed it to an extreme. So this Be Kind slogan which is used to justify a lot of this stuff.

It's not particularly kind to other people like women who don't want a male in their space or people who don't want their country to be transformed overnight.

Being super super kind to anybody who's a racial minority, a sexual minority,

and what could go wrong?

Well, you got cancel culture, you got, you know, gender ideology, and you've got, you know,

attacking your own country's history.

Women are dramatically more likely to be woke than men.

JK Rolling, should she be dropped by her publisher.

Has there ever been a period where the people who were censoring have been looked

up back upon more kindly?

Where is the far writer?

Absolutely isn't an exaggerated bogeyman. We have what I call fascist scare.

Welcome, it's another episode, isn't it, of Herrittics. We've done hundreds and hundreds of these now.

We're into the mid-400s. Eric Kaufman is today's guest.

He's a Canadian professor of politics at the University of Buckingham.

He was appointed in October 23 following his resignation from his post at Birkbeck, University of London, after two decades of service citing political differences.

Today we discuss why that is what's going on, what's taking over our

institutions to such an extent that he has to leave his post, and we discuss the

origins of wokeness what it actually is. My first question is, is it what the wok say it is, which is being

alert to social injustice? Because I don't believe Eric or I or many of you believe that's what

woke really means. Get hold of his new book, Tabu making, actually I'm reading the link without the, what's the full thing to,

Tabu how making race sacred produced a cultural revolution. In the US it's known as the third

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