Hello, and welcome to Focus, the Catholic Cancer's podcast for living, understanding, and

defending your Catholic faith.

I'm Psy Kelly at your host.

And one of the great defenders of the Catholic faith in recent decades has been Australian

Cardinal George Pell, who died quite unexpectedly earlier this month.

You're likely familiar with Cardinal Pell as the sharp-tongued warrior for cultural and

religious sanity, who was called to Rome, to reform the mess of church finances.

But if you're not familiar with that part of his story, you probably almost certainly

are familiar with him as the Australian Cardinal accused of sexual abuse, who served more than

a year in solitary confinement, before being acquitted by Australia's highest court.

He fought, and he suffered for his faith, it seemed to almost every neutral observer

that his trials and imprisonment were tremendous miscarriages of justice, but he never wavered.

That's what we wanted to dedicate this episode to, his unwavering spirit, and his strength

of spirit in being a great defender of the faith.

It's an apologetics podcast, but he was one of the great apologists of his times, and

it just seemed to us that other defenders of the faith can learn from a great deal from

imitating him.

To help us remember the man we called upon one of his many Australian protegees, our friend

Monica Dumont, the director of Public Affairs and Engagement for the Archdiocese of Sydney

in Australia.

Unfortunately, our cross-Pacific connection was a bit rough for the first few minutes

of this interview, but you'll notice it clears up at about three minutes in, so thanks

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