Hello, and welcome to Focus. The Catholic Cancer's podcast for living, understanding, and defending

your Catholic faith. I'm Psy Kellett, your host, and if you ever tried to defend Catholic

sexual ethics, you're likely to have faced questions about in vitro fertilization. Why

would the church that claims to be pro-life, for example, oppose this method of bringing

new life? Isn't this just more evidence that the church is anti-science and that kind

of thing? So today's episode is meant to help you explain and understand grasp of what's

at stake with in vitro fertilization. So that you'll have that in your back pocket when

it's time to defend the Catholic stance. Our guest is reproductive physiologist, Dr. Craig

Trazinski. Dr. Trazinski directed the in vitro fertilization andrology and hormone

assay laboratories at Louisiana State University Medical Center in Shreveport, where he also served

as assistant professor of OBGYN and embryologist. Seeing firsthand that in vitro fertilization

harmed patients, Dr. Trazinski left the IVF field and received training and fertility

awareness based in methods, including the Creighton model, and then became a certified

teacher of the Billings ovulation method. He now serves as the director of strategy and

scientific affairs for the Billings ovulation method in the United States. Among other

things that he does, Dr. Craig Trazinski, thanks so much for being with us.

Like you say, it's really a pleasure to have the opportunity to speak with you today

and to your listeners. Well, this is a tough one because often we are confronted with

this, well, first of all, a kind of ignorance among Catholics. They really don't know what

the church teaches. And then a kind of really, why would the church do that when we say that

the church opposes this? Was that your experience? Did you take a long time for you to kind

of grasp the Catholic view on this? Yes. So I was born a cradle Catholic and went on to

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