Hello, and welcome to Focus, the Catholic Cancer's podcast for living, understanding, and defending

your Catholic faith.

I am Sy Kelly to your host.

And this time we talk a bit about a controversy within the Catholic Church, one that a good

apologist, a good defender of the faith, would want to have some familiarity with, because

different Catholics, and those in the Catholic orbit, who may or may not still be in full

communion with the Church, have conflict about what happened at the Second Vatican Council,

particularly in a document, Dignitatis Humane, regarding religious freedom.

And many people might be shocked to hear that that's an issue at all, because isn't that

result of time?

I don't know.

Didn't the American Constitution resolve that for the Church or something?

I don't know.

So here to help us talk about that is Michael Lofton, an affiliate apologist here at Catholic

Answers, and the proprietor of the reason and theology podcast, Michael, thanks for being

with us.

Hey Sy, thanks for having me back on.

It's an honor.

You know, one thing that I, in my own experience with people in the St. Pius, the 10th society,

is I just assumed in speaking with them, and would often just speak as if this assumption,

I just, I guess that that's what an assumption is.

It was an unquestioned kind of thought in my head that what their main problem with the

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