Hey friend, welcome to Java with Julie hosted by me Julie Slattery.

This podcast is a listener-supported outreach of authentic intimacy, which is a ministry

dedicated to reclaiming God's design for sexuality. So let me ask you a question. How do you

walk through a pain that no one can see? What is it like for you to suffer in isolation?

And how do you cling to your faith when you feel like you keep being faced with new challenges and hardships

and you barely recovered from the last turtle you face.

Well, in today's podcast, I'm joined by a good friend of mine,

Michelle Koshad.

Michelle has endured tremendous hardship in her life.

She's beat cancer three times. She's had a number of serious

surgeries and deep personal relational hurt as well. You know we can't really

talk about sexuality without talking about pain.

And although Michelle isn't specifically speaking about sexual pain, there are few people that

are better equipped to talk and write about pain and suffering than she is.

And there aren't many people who are able to speak about pain and suffering

with a depth of godly perspective that Michelle has.

So I invited Michelle to have a conversation with me to talk about her new book called A Faith That Will Not

Fail.

Her book is all about how to practically cultivate that kind of fate that's built on God.

So that when pain and suffering come,

which Michelle will tell you that they will,

though your flesh may fail, you can experience the God who does not.

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