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We Can Do Hard Things

49. Dr. Brené Brown: On Holding Boundaries & Facing Our Fear

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

1. Brené and Glennon role play through a scenario on how to put boundaries in practice with family members this holiday season. 2. Why Brené insists that starting “a love affair with the thing you’re most afraid of” will change your life. 3. Glennon asks Brené the question she’s been dying to ask about how a woman’s work is defined and received in the world compared to her male counterparts. 4. How understanding that grief and loss are an inevitable part of change helps us navigate toward the decisions that serve us. 5. Brené answers questions from the Pod Squad and our rapid fire session on: tough emotions, tattoos, and her favorite place on Earth. About Brené: Dr. Brené Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston where she holds the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair at The Graduate College of Social Work. Brené is also a visiting professor in management at The University of Texas at Austin McCombs School of Business. She has spent the past two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy, is the author of five #1 New York Times bestsellers, and is the host of the weekly Spotify Original podcasts Unlocking Us and Dare to Lead. Brené’s books have been translated into more than 30 languages and titles include: Dare to Lead, Braving the Wilderness, Rising Strong, Daring Greatly, and The Gifts of Imperfection. Most recently Brené collaborated with Tarana Burke to co-edit You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience. Her TED talk – The Power of Vulnerability – is one of the top five most viewed TED talks in the world with over 50 million views. She is also the first researcher to have a filmed lecture on Netflix. The Call to Courage special debuted on the streaming service in April 2019. Brené lives in Houston, Texas, with her husband, Steve. They have two children, Ellen and Charlie. Book: Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience Instagram: @brenebrown Twitter: @BreneBrown To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. We are back with Dr. Brane Brown, who is going to be answering all of your

0:16.7

40,000 million questions that you sent in. She is not going to be accountable for that,

0:24.2

but she is not accountable. That's right. Good God. So many questions for you. But guess what,

0:32.4

I get to ask the first question. So here's my question. Okay. I've been dying to ask you this

0:39.9

question in a public forum for years, because we've talked about this several times in non-public

0:45.8

forums. My question for you, Dr. Brane Brown, is about the way women's work is defined and perceived

0:52.3

and translated in the world compared to men's? You and I have talked about our slight, just minor

0:59.5

frustrations around the phenomenon of our male counterparts in the world, often being defined as

1:07.2

so many things, leadership experts, et cetera, et cetera. Well, no matter what we introduce ourselves

1:14.0

as, we are often defined, and I've even seen you define to many places as a self-help

1:22.8

guru. Because I'm sure that there are many people who would think, why is that even an issue?

1:30.5

Why is that? What? Can you just talk to us a little bit about your thoughts about how your work

1:36.4

is defined in the world compared to counterparts and how misogyny is laced in a lot of that.

1:44.7

Yeah, I'm so bad just even thinking about it. Yeah, because, look,

1:55.0

I have $125,000 in student loans. I went to school after I graduated for college for like seven

2:04.2

years, like anyone that does what I do would be any man that does what I do would be called a

2:11.3

social scientist researcher. They would never, you know, like there was a headline in the UK

2:18.3

that said, self-help queen. I remember that. Yeah, you know, it's just, it's diminishing. Yep. And

2:29.7

social scientist queen, great, send me a tiara or whatever, I'll wear that. Great, I'll stick my

2:34.6

data right up there. It's twofold for me. It won. It's just the patriarchal gendering of me.

2:43.6

But then it's also dismissing from a long history of rational thought over emotion. It's dismissing

2:51.4

my work as quaint and secondary and soft skills and optional. Women's, why write it? Women's

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