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Christian Sexuality - Java with Juli

#491 Why Debates About Women's Roles Might be Missing the Point

Christian Sexuality - Java with Juli

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🗓️ 13 November 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Are men and women called to have the same kind of roles? Are women supposed to support men but not lead them, or lead alongside them? This is a sensitive ongoing discussion in the American Church. In this episode, author and esteemed theologian Dr. Michelle Lee-Barnewall joins Juli to discuss why this debate misses God’s heart for how men and women should relate to each other in the family of God.

Guest: Dr. Michelle Lee-Barnewall

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey friend welcome to Java with Julie I'm Julie Slattery and let me remind you that

0:05.5

Java with Julie is a listener-supported podcast it's an outreach of the ministry

0:09.8

authentic intimacy well you know a very common argument among Christians

0:15.2

is some contention around the idea of whether you are

0:18.6

egalitarian or complimentarian.

0:21.4

Let me explain that just a little bit.

0:23.0

Egalitarians come from the point of view that men and women are called to have the same type of

0:27.6

roles and neither is the leader over the other, whether that's in marriage or in the church

0:32.4

context.

0:33.6

Now, complimentarians come from the point of view

0:36.2

that the role of women is more of a compliment to men,

0:39.1

a support to men, and therefore not to be leader

0:42.0

over men or alongside men, particularly again in the family and church context.

0:47.0

Now friends this is a decades long discussion and very often people are asked to pick aside.

0:55.0

My guest today is Dr. Michelle Lee Barnwell and she is the author of a book called

0:59.2

Neither Complementarian nor Egalitarian. And she talks about what we might be missing when we look at

1:05.2

gender roles and the relationship between the genders in both marriage and in the

1:09.8

church as a

1:15.0

Michelle holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame.

1:14.0

She is an esteemed theologian and author and serves as an affiliate professor of New Testament at Biola University.

1:21.0

As you're going to hear, she is both highly intellectual and gospel centered in her approach and understanding of this topic.

1:28.0

Well, friend, this is a great episode for you to listen to as you consider for yourself gender roles in the church, gender roles in your marriage,

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