Hello, and welcome to Focus. The Catholic Dance was podcasted for living, understanding,

and defending your Catholic faith. I'm Psy, Kelet, your host, and among the things that

are probably hardest to accept about the Christian conception of the world, the Christian

understanding of the world is the teaching on eternal damnation on hell. As a matter

of fact, you sometimes see this caricature of Christianity that involves, oh, God loves

you infinitely. God loves you so much, and if you don't love Him back, He'll send you

to hell. This is the kind of way of parodying or caricaturing what is the truth about Christianity

and making it seem ridiculous. It's not hard to do, though, because the teaching on hell

is a hard one for everyone. So how can we believe in Jesus, believe in the love of Jesus,

and also believe that there is a threat of hell over us who still walk this earth? To

discuss that, Carlo Bussard is our guest, Carlo. A long time apologist here at Catholic

Answers, a wonderful speaker and writer. Carlo, thank you for being with us.

Sorry, thanks for having me, buddy. So this is the kind of stuff you have to think about

as a philosopher. Indeed. And as a theologian, because the doctrine of hell and the revelation

of that reality that Jesus presents to us is something that belongs properly to theology,

but philosophical principles are going to be involved when we're trying to articulate

this stuff and explain it. This is where it's a great example of how philosophy is the

handmade of theology, where philosophy is used or employed in order to make sense of

explain or articulate what we have from divine revelation. So we take that reveal data and we

bring our reason to bear on it. And that's properly theology, but in doing so, we're going to be

using philosophical principles to try and articulate that stuff. So it's a nice wedding of philosophy

and theology. And so hopefully in our conversation, some of that will come to light. Yeah, indeed,

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