On the creative journey, it's easy to get lost, but don't worry, you'll lift off.

Sometimes you just need a creative pepsa.

One of the trickiest aspects of trying to have a creative practice is the fact that you're also just a living thing.

Like life is happening to you.

And it's hard to even know, like, where does your personal life end and where does the work begin?

And what do you do when you get thrown into the unthinkable and it derails your entire life, never mind your creative practice?

We all have moments like these in our lives. Some of us have bigger ones than others.

But when it comes to talking about creative practice, especially online, it can feel like there

is no space for this stuff. And that's a problem because that stuff is life. Like that's a big

part of what it means to just be alive. I saw some recent

writing online and some whispers of a new book from a few new books from a friend of the

podcast and a past guest author and illustrator Rebecca Green.

And I thought I'd reach out to her and see if she'd like to do another episode.

In the correspondence leading up to our chat, Rebecca asked if I thought it would be okay

to talk about one of those personal moments that she had that changed everything for her

and that included her creativity. So in 2023, Rebecca and her husband lost their baby shortly after she

was born. I can't imagine a more traumatic experience and my

heart just really breaks for them. When Rebecca offered to speak a little bit about this,

I was moved and I accepted hoping that it might shed light on the side

of creative life that you don't often see online. We had spoke a little bit online in the past

before leading up to this chat and we spoke a little bit before the recording about it.

But just to set the scene a little bit and share my intentions,

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