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This is a global player original podcast. Hello and welcome to Tuesdays for the many podcasts.

We don't normally do a podcast on a Tuesday, but we're here at the Conservative Party conference.

Hopefully you'll have all have listened to Julian Keegan yesterday. Well today we are going to talk to somebody who's a good friend of mine. We've, well, should we say, been through a few things together. Penny Morden is here. Penny Welcome. Hello, Ian. It's great to see at the conference.

I mean, you're basically mobbed everywhere you go, aren't you?

There's a lot of love and it's reciprocated.

Everyone is in good mood.

It's been lovely.

Because you are a creature of the Conservative Party in a sense that you sort of came up through the ranks.

You're not somebody who's sort of Johnny Come Lately.

You were, you've gone through the activist experience and sort of join the party.

How long have you been a member of the party?

Oh, yonks.

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