Hey friend, welcome to Job with Julie. I'm your host Julie Slattery and this

podcast is a listener supported outreach of authentic intimacy. Well we made it to the

end of the year.

Crazy how fast it goes, isn't it?

But I don't know about you, but when the year draws to a close,

I start to take some time to reflect on things like what God has taught me through the year, some of the challenges I've

faced, and really who God is helping me to become.

This kind of reflection is a practice that in many ways has fallen by the wayside. As we celebrate New

Year's we just kind of continue into the next year without taking time to really

look at what God is doing and we miss out on a lot of the things that the Lord might be trying to show us

Well, that's why I thought this might be a great conversation to end the year with I'm talking with author and psychologist Kathy Lursel. Kathy is a huge proponent of what is called

story work that helps people reflect on their experiences and really make sense of them.

In this conversation Kathy and I talk about what

story work is, how it's helpful, and why emotional and spiritual maturity are more

integrated than we might think. Let's head to the coffee shop for my

conversation with Kathy Lorsel. Well Kathy before we start into our

conversation I just have to say how grateful I am for the work

that you and others that you're partnering with are doing. When we look at our world

today it seems like there's so much trauma. We talk a lot about trauma and

trauma-informed kind of helper therapy and I feel like you've been on some of

the front lines of not only doing trauma informed care but also training people.

So thank you for that.

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