On the creative journey, it's easy to get lost, but don't worry, you'll lift off.

Sometimes you just need a creative pepsa.

Why is it so easy to get lost on the creative journey?

I have a theory, and I think it's because in order for it to be a creative journey,

it has to be creative.

It has to take unique and unexpected turns.

And if it doesn't, it's not a creative path.

It's a typical path.

And that means you're not always going to get it right.

That means that you can't just follow what the artists and illustrators and designers and writers did before you.

You can't do the obvious choice. You have to

surprise yourself even. We're lucky to have people like artist, actor, illustrator, and

YouTuber Cheyenne Barton, who admits it when she feels lost. I asked Cheyenne to come onto the show for the second

time because she's been sharing on her own channels that she's been going through a bit of

an art crisis recently. And I thought it might be good to step into that moment in real time

and try to work out some things live in the

episode and just chat through what that feels like and where the breadcrums seemed to be. And it was a

really great chat. What I didn't expect was that she would have an aha moment in real time in the episode. So stay tuned for that.

That was really cool. And at the end, I'm going to come back for our creative call to adventure,

our CTA to put some of these ideas into practice with an exercise called left turn.

I hope that it, I hope this episode helps you if you're feeling lost,

both just to feel like you're not alone in that, but also maybe some, have some ideas of what

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