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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

502. Angry and Red: Color as Emotion | Mark Changizi

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2024

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Jordan Peterson sits down with theorist and researcher Mark Changizi. They discuss the biological reasons for mass hysteria on the societal level, why we evolved to have color vision, and how we understand and interpret the patterns of the natural world. Mark Changizi is a theorist aiming to grasp the ultimate foundations underlying why we think, feel, and see as we do. He attended the University of Virginia for a degree in physics and mathematics, and to the University of Maryland for a PhD in math. In 2002, he won a prestigious Sloan-Swartz Fellowship in Theoretical Neurobiology at Caltech, and in 2007, he became an assistant professor in the Department of Cognitive Science at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. In 2010, he took the post of Director of Human Cognition at a new research institute called 2ai Labs and also co-founded VINO Optics, which builds proprietary vein-enhancing glasses for medical personnel. He consults out of his Human Factory Lab. He curated an exhibition and co-authored a (fourth) book — “On the Origin of Art” (2016) by Steven Pinker, Geoffrey Miller, Brian Boyd, and Mark Changizi — at MONA museum in Tasmania in 2016, illustrating his “nature-harnessing” theory on the origins of art and language. This episode was filmed on November 22, 2024 | Links | For Mark Changizi: On X https://x.com/MarkChangizi/highlights On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/markchangizi Website https://www.changizi.com/?_sm_nck=1

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. I'm going to start today with a couple of announcements.

0:18.3

The first is that I published this book, We Who Wessel with God.

0:22.4

Perceptions of the Divine, it came out November 19th.

0:25.0

It's number one on Amazon right now,

0:26.7

which I'm pretty happy about.

0:28.2

And it's also the basis for a tour,

0:30.8

which I started in November,

0:34.0

continues through December,

0:35.5

then January through April as well.

0:37.8

You can find information about the tour at Jordan B.

0:40.5

peterson.com.

0:42.0

It's about this new book, which is about biblical stories,

0:44.7

but you should also understand that I'm doing the same thing

0:48.1

with these stories that I did with the other tours

0:50.6

that I had conducted before and the other books, for that matter,

0:53.3

which is to take high-level

0:54.5

abstract ideas, in this case, foundational narratives, to explain what they mean, but also to explain

1:00.7

why knowing what they mean can make a real practical difference in your life. You know, I want to

1:07.8

bridge the gap between the abstraction and the reality so that you can put into operation the principles that I'm discussing so that it does produce a tangible improvement and how you attend to things and how you act.

1:18.5

So come out to the lectures if you're interested in continuing with that.

1:22.7

Today, I had the opportunity to talk to Mark Changizi, who is an author of this book, expressly human, and a number of other books.

1:31.3

And I wanted to talk to Mark for two reasons.

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