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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

506. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2024

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with researcher and Rutgers University Professor of Psychology Lee Jessim. They discuss the denial of Left-wing authoritarianism across academia, how Lee’s research proved such authoritarianism exists, the backlash and attempted cancellations he received for his work, and how he not only survived the battle, but also garnered a promotion as a result. This episode was filmed on December 7th, 2024. | Links | For Lee Jussim: On X https://x.com/PsychRabble?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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0:00.0

So the podcast today took a turn back to the psychological,

0:19.2

which is an improvement over the political, as far as I'm concerned,

0:22.6

generally speaking.

0:25.1

I'm likely because the topic of concentration has more long-lasting significance, all things

0:31.2

considered.

0:32.3

So in any case, I spoke today with Lee Jussim, and Lee is the distinguished, a distinguished professor of psychology at Rutgers,

0:40.8

and he's been the chair there of the Department of Psychology and, separately, of anthropology,

0:46.8

which is a peculiar habit stance that we discuss in the podcast. I was interested in Lee's work because

0:53.5

there's a lot of trouble in the field of

0:55.6

social psychology. A lot of the claims of the field are not true. Now, you got to expect that in

1:02.2

scientific inquiry because a lot of the things we believe are false and the whole reason that we

1:09.8

practice as scientists is to correct those falsehoods.

1:12.7

And it's also the case that much of what's published is not going to be true because the

1:18.1

alternative would be that everything that was published was a discovery that was true.

1:22.6

And we'd be overwhelmed by novelty so fast that it would be untenable if that ever happened.

1:29.7

Lee is one of the rarer social psychologists who's actually a scientist and he's done a lot of

1:39.0

interesting and also controversial work. That's partly how you can tell it's interesting and valid

1:46.0

because it also is controversial.

1:48.3

One of the things he's established,

1:50.8

which is of cardinal importance,

1:53.2

is that our perceptions of other people are not mostly biased.

1:58.9

Right?

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