Hey friend welcome to Job with Julie. This is Julie Slattery and this

podcast is an outreach of authentic intimacy a ministry that helps you make sense of

God and sexuality. Well within the American Church there's a lot of active debating around what it means to be a man or woman,

but not many people have taken the time to explore

the call to biblical manhood and what that should really look like.

That's why I'm looking forward to sharing my conversation with you today

with author and pastor Chase Rapagel.

Chase is the author of the book The Five Masculant Instincts, where he explores some of the behavior and motivations of male Bible figures like Samson, Moses, Cain, and he provides some insights on the internal lessons that we can learn from them.

I think this is an insightful conversation looks at manhood from a different perspective

than many of us are used to, particularly in today's day in age.

So grab your coffee and take a seat. us are used to, particularly in today's day and age.

So grab your coffee and take a seat and join me for my conversation with Chase Repaggle.

But Chase, I'm really looking forward to having this conversation.

Not only I'm married to a man, but I'm also the

mom of three young adult boys. So you immediately have my attention when you talk about even

what is healthy masculinity and what does it look like to

mature as a man so thank you for doing this work I feel like a lot of people are

sort of without a compass when it comes to this.

Yeah, well I'm really grateful for the conversation and particularly, you know, I've had a lot of women read the book

from your position as moms or spouses and I really have a, I wrote the book obviously for men but I think this challenge men are facing we all bear responsibility and we all play a role and so I do think it's important

cultural conversation beyond just men.

So I'm really grateful for you taking the time with the book and also for this conversation.

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