The West is said to be, you know, fundamentally a bad thing, being white-skinned.

Consequently, it had to be undermined and replaced by the...

We're all living in a world of imagine where there are no divisions and nothing to fight or die for,

but we have created divisions. This is the paradox.

Well, no, actually, universal human rights creates groups that fight each other for power

and identify themselves as victims and as good and virtuous because they're victims,

as opposed to other groups who are oppressors.

What I feel is what is, as Opera famously said, I have my truth, you have your truth.

If you have no truth, you have no lies.

Well, the idea that the United Nations stands for peace and justice is a sick joke.

They're flirting with the idea of criminalising Islamophobia.

And of course, one can't talk about that because it's Islamophobic.

Question is, is it a done deal?

Thank you very much.

Is the West just going off the edge of the cultural cliff?

Mel Phillips, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me.

Very good to see you.

It's very good to see you.

Is the West on the verge of collapse?

Well, it's certainly not looking too healthy.

It seems to have a kind of death wish.

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