Hello and

welcome to the real crime profile.

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profile,

a former New York City prosecutor,

and writer producer of criminal minds,

and writer of Audible's Bluebeard, that's a audio book slash audio series.

It's a scripted series about LA's first serial killer and also co-host with Kathy Canning.

Kathleen Canning Mello, former FBI profiler and retired FBI agent and happy to be here.

And Bluebeard was a wonderful book, really enjoyed that, Jim.

But I was saying co-host with you in FBI Profilers Criminal Archives.

Oh!

Another audible series that Kathy and I did together and it's out there.

It's 15 episodes of cases that we worked together and while we were in the behavioral

analysis unit and we give you all the insights of what was really going on in

those cases and what was going on behind the scenes so look that up to

FBI profilers criminal archives on audible and

if you don't have a subscription to audible you can get a free subscription for 30 days

and listen to it and cancel if you want but hopefully you'll love it and

uh we are now Kathy going into what is a an extremely disturbing case.

The, absolutely.

The police shooting that ended in the death of Sonia Massey. it's a it's a terrible terrible situation. It's extremely complicated. We've seen you and I and everyone has seen videos and images and interviews on you know news programs and online and you know what they don't tell the whole story and we're going to tell the whole story and we're going to tell the whole

story in great detail. We will dive into this. This will be several episodes

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