Hey friend, welcome to Job with Julie. I am Julie Slattery and I'll remind you that this

podcast is listener supported and it's an outreach of the ministry authentic intimacy where we help people make sense of God and sexual

issues. We've talked a lot about betrayal and recovery on this podcast over the

years and if you are a betrayed spouse the trauma can run very deep and really get in the way of your recovery.

Beyond the hurt and the shock of the betrayal, there's a reoccurring worry of future betrayitrails like how can you know for sure

that your spouse has really changed well that's where headed today and as often is

the case with these conversations what you're gonna hear is a challenge for everyone, not just for those who have walked through betrayal

in marriage.

You're going to hear the process of how to become more deeply vulnerable and open to the work that God wants to do in your own life

and that can apply to all of us. My guest today is Jeremy Smith, he's a licensed

professional counselor and a sexual recovery therapist.

Jeremy has developed a unique three-pronged approach to help both the individuals

and the marriage itself to recover from betrayal.

And he shares what makes it so powerful and effective

and how spouses can discern if it changed they're really seeing

is real or surface level.

So settle in for my conversation with Jeremy Smith.

Hey Jeremy, great to have you on Jav with Julie.

Thanks so much for spending some time with me.

Thank you.

I am humble and excited.

Yeah, I love your enthusiasm.

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