527. The Moral Case for DEPORTATION - Lionel Shriver

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🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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🔥 The Moral Case for DEPORTATION. Lionel Shriver — the outspoken author of We Need to Talk About Kevin — joins me to explore one of the most controversial ideas in modern politics: the moral case for deportation. In this no-holds-barred conversation, we tackle immigration, national identity, and whether Western nations have the right to set limits on who stays and who goes. * GET HER ACCLAIMED NEW BOOK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mania-latest-novel-award-winning-author/dp/0008658714/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 * Shriver reflects on the cultural and political shifts that have made it taboo to discuss border control openly, and why she believes fiction writers, publishers, and progressives have abandoned honest dialogue in favor of virtue-signaling and silence. From the role of elites to the collapse of independent thinking in publishing, this is Lionel Shriver at her most candid. 🎙️ We talk: - Why mass immigration isn’t always virtuous - The fear of being labelled “far-right” - What happens when truth becomes hate speech - The future of free expression in literature and beyond #ImmigrationDebate #LionelShriver #FreeSpeech Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 Lionel Shriver Highlights 1:15 Is the Woke Mind Virus Ending? 4:15 Cultural Appropriation Insanity 5:55 Bill Maher Believes Gender Woo-Woo 7:15 Protecting Relationships 10:15 Fascinating Concept! 13:45 Manias on the Right & Trump 17:35 The Sieg Heiling 19:30 We Need to Talk About Kevin (Trans Obsessed Actors) 21:15 Lionel Shriver, JK Rowling, Kathleen Stock 25:15 Atonement & Ian McEwan vs MeToo 27:05 Was ‘We Need to Talk About Kevin’ Anti-Woke? 29:15 Not Having Children Has Been Normalised 32:15 What Happiness Really Is 36:15 What If You DON’T Love Your Child (Kevin) 39:15 Publisher Employees Won’t Stop My Books! 41:15 Why Books Get Immigration Wrong 44:15 Refugees Can Live at Celebrities’ Homes! 46:15 New York Just 30% “Local” 48:15 Islam in UK 51:15 Following Immigrant Rules 54:15 Why Lionel Feels Cheated 58:00 The Left Don’t Get This 1:02:25 A Heretic Lionel Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	When J.K. Rolling defends the idea of women's faces, nobody says anything. The entire art world
0:06.9	has embarrassed itself. I don't think being outspoken has helped my fiction career. Individual
0:12.3	employees have a big problem with me. They haven't stopped the publication of my books. I'm one of
0:17.8	the only fiction writers that I know of who has stuck his or her neck out.
0:24.6	You would think they're independent thinkers, and they're not.
0:31.6	These people care desperately about fashion, about status.
0:36.6	Bill Maher coming out and saying,
0:38.3	of course it's ridiculous to say that there are only two sexes.
0:41.3	There's only two sexes, which is ridiculous.
0:44.3	I find it dumbfounding.
0:46.3	I like his deportations,
0:49.3	drastically reducing the number of people crossing
0:52.3	the southern border of the United States illegally.
0:55.0	There is very little fiction that portrays the immigrant experience from the host country's
1:02.2	perspective. It's always from the immigrants' perspective. It's one of the big problems with
1:06.5	the Muslim community. The mountain comes to Mohammed.
1:12.4	Lina Shriver, welcome to the show.
1:14.7	I'm glad to be here.
1:16.1	I want to ask you something you've been writing about as well.
1:18.4	Is the woke mind virus reaching its end?
1:22.7	I think the simple answer is no, but it's a nice idea.
1:27.2	And I'm promoting, I'm actively promoting the
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