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That's audible.com slash Wondery UK. Hello and welcome to a very special crossover episode of Real Crime Profile and Best Case, Worst Case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer

producer of criminal minds and Bluebeard on Audible. And with me today is,

Hi, everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor. Jim, I'm so excited to be

with you in this big crossover episode. And with us, of course, from your Real Crime Profile podcast is,

Kathy Canning Mello, retired FBI profiler, and yes, co-host of the Audible podcast, FBI Profilers,

Criminal Archives. And today we have a very special guest with us, and I'll let her introduce

herself. Hi, I'm Meg Ablegate. I am the co-founder and CEO of Unsilensed,

which is a nonprofit that aims to stop institutional child abuse within the troubled teen industry.

I'm also a survivor of that same industry. That's great. Well, thank you so much, Meg,

for coming on to this

crossover episode. And an episode so important, we wanted to do it on both podcasts. And I really

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