Hey friend, welcome to Java with Julie, hosted by me Julie Slahery.

This is a listener-supported podcast.

It's an outreach of authentic intimacy, which is a ministry helping people make sense of God and sexuality.

Last week, we talked quite a bit about purity culture and the ways that it has actually undermined biblical sexuality and the faith of so many,

especially women. We thought we needed to continue that conversation. And so what you're going to

hear today is a conversation that was part of a series of interviews that I had with experts to

train and equip ministry leaders who want to improve their understanding

of Christian sexuality. This conversation was recorded a few years ago with my friend Dr. Doug

Rosano, who was a well-recognized author and expert on Christian sexuality. He sadly passed away,

but our conversation contains just invaluable information for the church

and for ministry leaders who are seeking to move beyond a purity, culture, kind of narrative

and sexuality, and to really help married couples embrace the beauty of God's design.

So let's get into my conversation with the late Dr. Doug Rosen out.

Doug, I'm assuming that a lot of people will know your name just because you have been in

this field of Christian sexuality for decades now. You are one of the trailblazers of these

conversations and have written a number of just super helpful books, including a

celebration of sex and soul virgins and a celebration of sex after 50 and on and on.

You're still writing.

So you actually are just finishing up a book on singleness and sexuality.

How many books have you written?

I think about six. My very first one was slaying the marriage dragons and it's out of print and I thought I might resurrect at some point

because that's always been a goal is to help marriages. Yeah, awesome. There are some people who

...