There's a few things that will rope me in immediately on an email where people will say,

hey, I'm a, I'm also a former masshole, like Massachusetts,

I'm gonna buddy up with you over that like but I killed my parents you're definitely and

it's weird to sit at the bar and wait like all right we don't know what you guys me and my sister coming in

We'll do your podcast and and then this guy's sitting in the lobby like with tattooed heads and necks and stuff and you go like

everyone in this lobby looks like they felt somebody. He had a John 316

hat and it said God say it's like oh that's definitely a guy I'm terrified of that

fucker he'd be the one I would stay there so so but I knew as soon as you guys

came in it you don't have luggage you're not going all right this is gonna and I was

when you when you're profiling a murderer you come in like a junior sling blade dressed like almost a boy scout outfit and how will do you now?

I'm 26 26

Well, prison did good, but you look youthful for.

Prison did me a lot of good.

Yeah, yeah.

That was a really, I don't know, there's parent there's no strag I'm just jumping all around

but no that was a funny that's what we do I was a really faggy kid I mean I was really

just fucking very sheltered did you say faggy kid I was a fucking little oh I was yeah terrible

I was I was a faggy kid too and boy did the old men take notice.

Well, that's another surprising thing. Even my sister's like, wait, it's just how did you not get raped in prison? Like how were you out?

Yeah. Yeah. And and I look you know it was even more of a twink back then

but I've had a discussion with my brothers because like half of us were molested and then

half was like you know am I better like, you know, am I better than the, you know.

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