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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#570: Bitcoin's Path Is More Bullish Than Ever with Nik Bhatia

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8764 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Nik Bhatia to discuss his upcoming book and bitcoin's unprecedented setup in the macro environment.


Nik on Twitter: https://x.com/timevalueofbtc

Bitcoin Age: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQK2RQ5J

Bitcoin Layer video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDAFY8rx-Kg



0:00 - Intro

0:36 - Strategic reserve

8:45 - Does bitcoin threaten the dollar?

12:51 - Bitcoin began more open than the internet did

16:40 - Unchained

17:41 - Strengthening America

21:31 - MSTR, buying bitcoin with new money

35:18 - - Zaprite & Sote

36:51 The investor-initiated chain

44:31 - How sustainable is the bond strategy?

52:31 - Bitcoin inside of sovereign bond structure

57:10 - Critics don’t see the wider context

1:03:31 - Bitcoin is the best survival tool


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Transcript

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

0:24.4

Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.2

Thank you for taking some time during the holiday season to do this.

0:39.1

I texted you last week after watching an incredible YouTube video that you put out,

0:45.8

and you were gracious enough to join me on Festivus to have a discussion about it.

0:57.0

Anything for a friend, Marty. Great to see you, man. Great to see you too. And also, congrats on the new book launch, the Bitcoin Age,

1:04.0

number one on Amazon and money and, what is it, money in economics?

1:09.0

Money Monastery.

1:10.0

Yes, thank you, Marty. It's called Bitcoin Age.

1:12.2

It will be out in February 2025, although I'll put an asterisk on there because on

1:19.2

January 20th or 21st, we might be getting some material news regarding Bitcoin.

1:25.2

And so I am keeping that asterisk there in case I have to write a few

1:29.9

extra pages, which I, to be honest, I am planning to do so. So we'll see. So you're bullish on

1:37.1

the strategic Bitcoin Reserve? I am. My position on it has evolved a little bit, but I am, and I would say now that it is my base case, I'm over 50% mentally, you know, on that one. So we'll see.

1:54.0

What, I mean, maybe let's start there. I mean, the video that I watched and reached out about how it has to do with micro strategy,

2:05.7

their utilization of the convertible debt market and how the repo market is affecting

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