You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Very interesting times.

And I was just saying, it seems like we're getting to see a lot of your

theses play out in real time as Trump takes over as president here.

Again.

Again.

And I think within the last 48 hours too there's this been this talk of tariffs

and i've seen you discuss the topic of tariffs on other shows and whether or not they'd actually

be beneficial or counterproductive to trump's ultimate goals and i think with what happened with col with Columbia over the weekend may signal that tariffs are nothing more than a bargaining chip to force people to the table when he wants certain things out of certain countries.

And so what was your take on the Columbia and the levying of tariffs and Columbia bending the knee with within 12 hours.

You know, I mean, what I saw of it was, you know, they said they weren't going to do it.

And then he threatened a whole laundry list of things, not least of which that I thought was the I-E-E-E-E-P-A tariffs, which I don't think a lot of

people understand what those are, but those are something signed, I guess, by President Carter.

And it's basically, we'll take your treasuries. And I don't think people understand, or we'll place levies or will freeze your treasuries

or we'll place a levy on them or we'll do something that you will not be able to use them.

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