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Dolls of Our Lives

58: Molly's World and Historical Memory

Dolls of Our Lives

Allison Horrocks and Mary Mahoney

Society & Culture, History

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2021

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

What would Molly McIntire have known about the Holocaust? For this episode, we talked with Leah Sauter, a teacher and translator whose speciality is Holocaust history. Drawing upon her extensive work with survivor testimony and newspapers, Leah provided us with insight into anti-semitism in the United States and censorship in mainstream US media in the 1940s. Though Molly's books include just a few sentences on the Jewish experience during World War II, as Leah discusses in this episode, there are plenty of other sources that center Jewish resistance and a fuller picture of the war. Leah also shares advice on which movies and books on the Holocaust to avoid. If you've been wondering what was left out (or wrong) in the Peek into the Past sections of Molly's canon books and supplementals, this one is a must-listen. You may find Leah at @peculiarleah on Instagram; she is also an active flaired user on r/askhistorians.

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0:38.9

Welcome everyone to American Girls. This is the podcast where we're reliving the American Girl

0:55.3

series book by book. Today we have a very special guest, Leah Satter, a scholar of Holocaust

1:01.4

literature, specifically working on and thinking about children's literature and how we might tell

1:06.8

stories in an ethical and, you know, kind and compassionate way about the Holocaust. We're so,

1:13.1

so excited to bring you this conversation. We talked about any number of things, including

1:18.8

number of the stars, her thesis work, her current research, and what Molly might have known about

1:25.1

the Holocaust, and, you know, did she traumatize me by revealing the plot of the boy with the

1:30.0

striped pajamas? Yes. But she taught us so, so much, and it really helped us put the

1:36.0

Molly books in perspective. So we're so, so grateful for her coming on and sharing her knowledge.

1:40.9

So without further ado, let's go to right to our conversation.

1:52.4

So we are so thrilled to have with us today, Leah Satter, who is currently a graduate student

1:58.0

studying Holocaust history at the University of Haifa. And she's writing a master's thesis on

2:03.5

ghosts and Holocaust literature. Leah actually reached out to us years ago, so shout out to you

2:10.0

for being a longtime listener, with some really fascinating material culture history related to women.

2:16.9

And we archived that email. We kept it with a big, you know, bright flag so that we wouldn't

2:22.2

forget to come back to it. And we're very thrilled to have you with us here today.

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