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All right.

So now let's get to our show.

Hi, I'm David Barr-Curtley, author of the book Save Me Please and other stories, and welcome to episode 585 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy.

Our guest today is Philip Gillette. He's the writer and director of the horror films The Bleeding House and They Remain.

And he's also been a writer for TV shows such as Love Death and Robots and video games such as Rise of the Tomb Raider.

And in this interview we'll be discussing his work on the science fiction film The Europa Report and the animated sword and sorcery film The Spine of Night.

And now here's an interview with Philip Gillette.

All right.

So we're here with Philip Gillette.

Welcome to the show.

Thank you so much.

Okay.

So I understand that you weren't allowed to watch the black cauldron as a kid.

So tell us about that.

What a great question.

Oh, wow.

So, yeah, I notoriously in my family, and now I guess beyond my family, when I was young,

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