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Leading

6: LEADING: David Lammy: The Future of Foreign Policy

Leading

Goalhanger Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Is David Lammy the next politician to represent Britain on the global stage? Alastair and Rory speak to the Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs about his upbringing, the Department for International Development, the Labour Party, tribalism in politics, and the role of foreign policy for Britain today. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive a weekly newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Email: [email protected] Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's the Restis Politics.com. Welcome to another episode of the Restis Politics

0:21.0

leading with me, Alistair Campbell and me Rory Stewart.

0:25.0

Joined today by the son of a poor Guyanan immigrant family who made it to Harvard and to the bar.

0:34.0

As at various points being labeled the Black Blair and the British Obama.

0:39.0

A friend of both has a very recognizable left to those who know him.

0:45.0

But despite now being firmly a part of the establishment,

0:49.0

Class has always been at the heart of his politics as MP for one of the poorest parts of the country,

0:54.6

Tottenham. Campaign wrong Grenfell, Windrush, Oxbridge eliteism, knife crime drugs,

1:02.3

but if Labour win the next election he's going to be the foreign

1:06.7

secretary. So David Lammy welcome first of all but tell us a little bit about the journey from son of poor

1:16.4

Gyan and immigrant family to potentially foreign secretary. Well thank you for that

1:21.2

introduction which is very sweet and sort of takes me back a bit.

1:27.0

God, the journey.

1:30.0

I think there'll be lots of listeners who can picture being in their village town, housing

1:38.6

estate miles away from power or the center of power feeling quite small, marginal, and that would be a good way to describe growing up in Tottenham in North London in the 1970s in an immigrant family a tough part of London

1:59.0

Rioting in the early 80s

2:01.6

I think you should make it I think you weren't writing.

2:04.0

I wasn't writing.

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