So let's talk a little bit about what you see as the purpose of college.

I've heard you say that some people use it for chasing status was your phrase while others use it to prepare

themselves to improve not just themselves and their families but society so what do you see as the mission? Well, part of the ethos of Jesuit institutions from the beginning is that we want our students to learn and get all the tools they need to flourish and we want to give them opportunity

but we also want them to have all of that not just for them but for the world

that we have this enormous force multiplier of sending them out with the desire to matter and the skills to really do that.

And they will choose how, but we really need for them to understand that the sacran high of just getting the job that pays the most or

seeking status for themselves that's not what will make them happy and that is

not the point of their lives and so they can do that and still be happy, but what really drives you is knowing

looking back on your deathbed at your life, how did I matter?

I'd like to introduce our guest for today.

Tanya Tetlow, president of Fordham University.

Fordham is a well-regarded private university in New York City,

founded in 1841 and run for most of its history by the Jesuits the Roman Catholic

religious order that dates to the 16th century. Tetlow is the first female

president affordum as well as the first layperson.

There's a very daunting hall of portraits outside of my office, you know all of these priests

going back to 1841.

Kettlow's own father was in fact a priest, but while getting his psychology PhD at Fordham,

he met his would-be wife, another graduate student, so he left the priesthood. Tanya was born in New York not long

before the family moved to New Orleans so Fordham is in her genes. A good way to

recruit me is they can tell me you exist because of us.

Fordham did recruit her and she returned as president in 2022.

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